Podcast 2: Kathy Manning on Traumatic Brain Injury
Transcript
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Joe Cerquone:
I'm speaking today with ASHA member Kathy Manning. Kathy is a
Speech Language Pathologist in private practice in Bozeman,
Montana. Welcome Kathy.
Kathy Manning:
Thank you.
Joe:
Kathy is a guest panelist for a June 2007 ASHA sponsored event at
the National Press Club in Washington, DC. That event is entitled
"Civilian TBI: The Other Story". Kathy, would you talk
a bit about your experience with TBI care delivery?
Kathy:
Sure. I've actually been a Speech Pathologist for a number of
years over 30 years, and I've had an opportunity to work
pretty extensively with TBI really across the continuum of care.
From ICU to community re-entry, I've worked in metropolitan
and rural areas and everything from full time speech pathology to
full time rehab manager. But about four years ago I had an
opportunity to join a colleague in private practice treating mild
traumatic brain injury exclusively. And I think in doing so
I've had an opportunity to reevaluate the way I provide
service and what some of the issues I think are still existing
for those with head injury. Particularly I think that now,
although we've made tremendous gains in the treatments of
TBI, there still are a lot of barriers to providing care for
those with head injuries and brain injuries. And particularly in
the fact that I think therapy is driven by insurance coverage, so
it's often the insurance industry that decides who get
treatments and how much they get and what kind of therapy. And
the result has been inpatient lengths of stay that are reduced,
reduction in Medicare and Medicaid funding, and in the cases of a
lot of clients I see insurance companies that are actually
refusing to cover cognitive rehabilitation for TBI.
Joe:
I see. I think when some people hear the term mild TBI, they may
connote that with being not a terribly serious condition. Would
you agree?
Kathy:
I would totally disagree. The term mild is really a medical
definition and it represents, well misrepresents the severity of
symptoms that people experience following TBI. It refers really
to the medical definition that's based on the extent of brain
trauma indicated by responsiveness and recall at the time of the
injury. Those with mild TBI actually experience a host of fairly
serious and long-term problems if they don't have a recovery
within the first few weeks or months.
Joe:
You work in a comparatively remote part of the country, any
particular challenges associated with that in TBI care
delivery?
Kathy:
Yeah, you know there are a few. Even though Montana is pretty
sparsely populated we do have some excellent resources and
treatment centers for TBI, but these are really located in just a
few of the largest cities. I think the biggest problem for
individuals with brain injury is that they are often sent away
from their home communities to access inpatient treatment and
then they're sent back to their homes for follow-up. And if
that's in a rural setting, some parts of Montana are more
rural than others, but if they're being sent back to a very
rural setting it can be difficult because there may not be
therapists available or those who are may not have had much
experience with traumatic brain injury. I also think in these
settings it's more difficult for us to work as
interdisciplinary teams particularly in the outpatient
environment. And also at least in Montana often times rural
equates to lower income and there's poor health insurance
coverage so we may not have clients that though they're being
referred for therapy, they may not have any insurance coverage
for that therapy.
Joe:
Kathy from your experience with TBI care delivery do you have any
particular advice or something you would want to convey to your
fellow SLP's?
Kathy:
Yeah, you know I think Speech Pathologists generally do a really
excellent job one-on-one with our clients, and I think we all
recognize the importance of networking with other therapists and
pursuing continuing education, but I believe we really need to
put more effort into a couple of areas. One is advocacy and
education. The public really still does not have a very good idea
not only about what TBI is but specifically about what a Speech
Language Pathologist is and what role we might play in cognitive
rehabilitation. And when I say public, I don't mean just the
average person, but I think I also mean physicians, vok rehab
agencies, case managers, insurance companies, employers, all of
those who really deal with individuals who have had traumatic
brain injury. I also think we need to be looking at taking
therapy out of this office a little more and into the real life
world of these clients. I guess as a profession I would like to
see us elevate ourselves academically and clinically to more the
level of neuro-psychology with specialized training programs and
maybe advanced certification in traumatic brain injury, and
basically stop working out of broom closets and undervaluing what
we do.
Joe:
You have experience with clients who have successfully appealed
denial of cognitive rehabilitation services for TBI. What's
the secret to appealing?
Kathy:
Persistence. I think that in my experience really, it's not
taking, don't take no for an answer. I think that we really
have to be cognizant of what the appeals process is for the
specific insurance companies, and read the small print. It's
important to document well, particularly in terms of the
functional changes and specific goals, but also in terms of the
complexity of what we're providing because we aren't just
doing therapy. We're doing a lot more in terms of assessment,
counseling, collaboration, advocacy. I found in my appeals
situation having supporting documentation was essential as well
as working with the case manager but in the particular case that
I was involved in that ASHA is discussing, or will be discussing
at this conference or this meeting. The success of the appeal was
ultimately based on the reviewing physician's impression of
the documentation that was provided by SLP, so documentation is
really essential.
Joe:
Kathy, what made you agree to participate in ASHA's event on
TBI at the National Press Club?
Kathy:
Well, for one thing ASHA wanted me to share my experience working
with the insurance companies, and that appeals process highlight
the better need for coverage for those with traumatic brain
injury. But for me personally I wanted to be able to share my
concerns for those with mild traumatic brain injuries
specifically. These are people who often are denied access or who
have delayed access to appropriate medical intervention and
therapy. This results in exacerbation of their symptoms. I think
that MTBI is not well understood, not only by the public but also
by the medical community outside of rehabilitation. The clients I
see often have to deal with contentious litigation. They
experience tremendous financial burdens and stress. You know
their support system; business is failing, loss of work, loss of
partner, even loss of parental rights. But I really believe that
with early diagnosis, appropriate and adequate intervention and
improved awareness, I think that prognosis for recovery and
resumption of normal lives is really good for those with mild
traumatic brain injury. And I work with some of most courageous
and hardworking people I have ever met, and I really have felt a
responsibility to speak for them in any way that I can.
Joe:
Well that's very well said. ASHA members can find out more
about Civilian TBI: the Other Story in the pressroom of the ASHA
website. Kathy, thank you very much for being our guest
today.
Kathy:
You're welcome and thank you.
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